Here are my thoughts and observations about last nights town hall meeting with Fl-12 rep Adam Putnam. Driving up I was greeted by Public Option Now signs lining the entrance and parking lot. There were around a dozen public option supporters handing out material just outside the doors.
I would estimate between 150-200 people in attendance. The dress ranged from I-just-came-from-work to I’m-retired-and-this-is-what-I-wear. A good percentage appeared to be retirement age.
Adam started his remarks by saying that there are four major issues facing Congress, but I missed the fourth, and he didn’t really elaborate on the last one. Those three — Cap and Trade, Card Check, and of course, Health Care Reform. He called them “game changers,” a major shift from the way we do things as a nation.
Before taking questions he listed some of the things that he thinks should direct the debate on health care:
- Greater access
- Afforadability
- The individual, along with their health care professionals, should be the ones to make medical decisions
- Government should not limit choices
- Private insurance should remain the foundation
He had one very interesting statistical note on the expatriation rates of doctors by country. Canada has a rate above 10% and the UK is above 5% (sorry, I didn’t get the exact number). The US rate is 0.6% and most of those are doctors which have decided to go on the mission field. The numbers for nurses are similar. There is a reason that medical professionals trained here practice here.
He spent several minutes talking about how much the US spends on equipment, research, and innovation. One stat – MRI Machines: In the US there are 25 MRI machines per million people. In Canada and the UK that number is 5 per million.
One big issue is how difficult it is to project future health costs. He cited the huge difference between original CBO projections for Medicare and Medicaid and the quickly realized realities.
One point he made that I thought was particularly important, and often under discussed, is the effect federally implemented plans will have on state budgets. The impact could be a budget buster for many, if not most, states.
His suggestions for the discussion:
- Association Health Plans – where groups of people, bound by some association, could purchase insurance at group rates typically reserved for companies. Perhaps we could have the “Bloggers Health Plan”
- Malpractice Reform
- The ability to sell plans across state lines
- Electronic Medical Records. He called this the area where there is the least partisan disagreement.
- Incentivize wellness and fitness
- Small business tax incentives
He remarked that mandatory coverage of pre-existing conditions without mandated participation for all can not co-exist.
He also touched on the timing of things in Congress. The House leadership has expressed a goal of bringing HC to a vote before Thanksgiving, although he believes that it may extend through the end of the year, or into early 2010. In any case, he said the issue is on a short time line. Because of the focus on HCR, he thinks that Cap and Trade and Card Check will be pushed off until early next year.
I wasn’t able to stay for all of the Q&A portion, but I did stay for the first few.
The first question got quite a bit of positive reaction from those in attendance.
Q. Is it constitutional/legal/possible for Congress to pass a bill that is not in it’s final legislative form?
A. He said that the bill, in it’s present form, is in many ways conceptual. There are at least three separate versions that are being melded in the House. The version that is eventually voted on, however, will have to be specific and final. He took the opportunity of this question to say that it is critical for the final bill to be available for people to see prior to Congress voting.
Q. This questioner likened what the government is doing as equivalent to being forced to support a particular charity.
A. His answer addressed the issue of cost in the bill, which currently range from $873 Billion to $1.3 Trillion. Cuts to Medicare could be $500 Billion. One method of revenue generation under discussion is a VAT on medical devices and a surcharge of 2.5% on people making $250,000 or more. One option is to change the surcharge to 5% on those making a $500,000 or more. He pointed out the fact that many of those in either scenario are small business owners. He made the point that these options would have the effect of costing small businesses more than Fortune 100 companies. He repeated the point that state governments will have to come up with more money as well. A lot more money.
The final question I was able to stay for:
Q. What about fraud in existing government programs?
A. Fraud, along with waste and abuse, are unbelievably high in existing programs. Florida is particularly bad. While eliminating or reducing fraud, waste, and abuse won’t solve all of the cost problems, they are important and costly factors.
It was interesting to attend, and I wish I could have stayed longer. While there was a significant presence of those supporting a public option, most questioners (of those I had the chance to hear) appeared to want government to leave us alone.
If anyone else was there and had a different view, or was able to stay longer, please let me know.
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I was able to stay for the whole experience. I will say I was amazed that there was the whole range of Republican talking points in one room of a small number of constituents … there were questions about the President’s birth certificate, worries about 6+ year old bills that are long dead regarding gun laws, concerns of “God” being taken off our coinage, the “Read the Bill” people, and of course, from the Congressman himself, ‘it’s amazing after 9-11 that we elected someone with Muslim lineage.’ Wow, a grab bag of nuts.
I would have wanted to ask Congressman Putnam a few questions, had I thought I would ever get a straight answer.
1. If there are so many issues facing us, why did you do nothing in 9 years to fix any of them?
2. If you are doing such a great job for your district, why does it have appalling high school graduation rates? unemployment rates? numbers of families living below the poverty line?
3. If “government” and “taxes” are always bad, why would you hold your townhall in a government building, using the government power grid, where people have to drive on government funded roads to get there, to speak to people as a representative of the GOVERNMENT?
4. You sat on the House Committee on Financial Services while our economy took a downward spiral and now you want to point to Freddie and Fannie?
Unfortunately, Adam would never have been able to answer those questions because he isn’t man enough. That simple. He’s never been in the real world. When he lost his “power” in Washington, he threw in the towel. Forget fighting for what you believe in, head home to run for Ag Commish (a job where he won’t be asked too many questions on his dangerous policy beliefs/moves). He has the ability to stand there and listen to people spout the most ridiculous statements and placate them.
Actually, that does make sense. It is easier to keep ignorant people voting for you when you’re a Congressman like Adam.
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Gee, isn’t it amazing what some people believe. Like all of those people there who believe the bogus claim that 44,000 people die each year because they don’t have health coverage. Or that actually believe that a public option will bring costs down.
Or is it that they think public option=someone pay for me?
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Did you seriously use Michelle Malkin as your source?? Hahahaha … that’s a good one.
Yes, you are right. It is all about the fact that people want something for nothing. Nevermind the fact that we ALREADY pay for health care for the uninsured in higher premiums. Skip over the Congressional Budget Office letters stating how much money will be SAVED with reform. We won’t even get into how much money this will save companies who no longer have to lose a good portion of their work force each year due to injury and illness because of lack of insurance. It is all those people after something for free. Yup.
(You do know, Jim, that Reagan lied about the ‘welfare queens driving Cadillacs,’ right?)
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So, is it her argument that is faulty, or just that fact that Michelle Malkin said it? I’ll revisit the CBO once they are scoring a complete bill rather than a conceptual draft outline.
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http://pnhp.org/excessdeaths/health-insurance-and-mortality-in-US-adults.pdf
Read the study before you debunk it. Then again, if you think Michelle Malkin is a reliable source, this may be a bit too much for you.
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Living in Florida I can’t wait to buy health insurance in Idaho!
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